Immigrant vs Expat
Here is just a very small piece from wikipedia, for the full low down go here wikipedia
In common usage, the term is often used in the context of professionals or skilled workers sent abroad by their companies, rather than for all ‘immigrants‘ or ‘migrant workers‘. The differentiation found in common usage usually comes down to socio-economic factors, so skilled professionals working in another country are described as expatriates, whereas a manual labourer who has moved to another country to earn more money might be labelled an ‘immigrant‘ or ‘migrant worker‘.
There is no set definition and usage varies with context, for example the same person may be seen as an “expatriate” by his home country and a “migrant worker” where he works. Retirement abroad, in contrast, usually makes one an “expatriate”.
Expat (expatriate) - One who has taken up residence in a foreign country.
Immigrant – A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
So, where do you stand on this?
I reckon I am more of an immigrant.
Well, as you should know by now if you are a regular reader or at least if you have read the about page. I moved to Spain from the UK over 8 years ago, at the time I didn’t consider myself either, just someone looking to make a better life for himself and his family!
So, is an expat, someone who leaves his native Country to live in another Country? and an immigrant, someone coming from another Country and entering another Country? I can’t see the difference!
Or is an Expat, someone who brings money from another Country or gets salary paid from another country etc. (retirement, businessman, diplomat)? and an Immigrant, someone who is earning money inside the country out of its local sources (employment salary paid in local currency)?
You never hear the phrase ‘legal expat’ and ‘illegal expat’, but to hear ‘legal immigrant’ and ‘illegal immigrant’ is very common.
“The difference between an expatriate and an immigrant is that immigrants commit themselves to becoming a part of their Country or residence, whereas an expatriate see themselves, and are perceived, as living in a foreign land”. If that’s the case I am an immigrant.
I personally think it is a bit of a class thing. Immigration has a bit of a negative connotation, a trait of an immigrant could be represented by a minority ethnic group. So, although an expat can be a minority in the extreme sense, they often avoid the status of a statistical minority. I would say that’s something to do with the negative connotation of being termed an immigrant. I’m not sure how many expats are concerned with how they are termed but I hope if they read this, they will tell me and post a comment below. Could the term have come about as an alternative to immigrant because it carries a different status connotation?
One last thing, from what I have seen & read, just the term Expat is under dispute. Some articles on this subject have different views and there isn’t really a clear cut definition in dictionary’s either.The bottom line is, probably there is no real difference between an Expat and an Immigrant.
Expatriate from the Latin ex patria – to be out of your native country.
Patriot is from the Greek patris meaning fatherland.
May I suggest that the degree of permanence separates the two. The trouble is none of us know the future, many people have asked me if I would ever go back to the UK. I don’t know but I will never say never, although I am very comfortable here in Spain, as are my family.
So for now, I’ll leave the definitions up to you and I’ll continue to be un Guiri living in Spain my adopted home Country.
Developers Challenge Bank of Spain Over Property Predictions
In the second day of the 2011 Madrid Real Estate Conference, Galindo emphasised the need “to talk about facts and not opinions,” and expressed his fear that many potential buyers may now decide to delay their property purchases to await further discounts.
On the other hand, Galindo said that the real estate sector wants to “be what society demands of us; we want the supply and demand to be sustainable.”
“We do not want the real estate sector to be a business, but an industry,” said the APCE President, who estimates that the demand for residential housing is around 30,000 units per year .
Finally, he called for better official property information and accurate calculations on the housing surplus in Spain. He also demanded the creation of consolidated statistics on ‘stock’ and housing prices, the creation of a study on economically sustainable housing types from the point of view of cost and production, and requested a debate be opened on what type of housing needs to be constructed, taking into account the needs of society.
Galindo then took the opportunity of requesting Development Minister, José Blanco, to pursue “continuing dialogue” on these issues, together with representatives from the other autonomous regions.
The meeting took place after data from the first quarter of this year indicated that banks have restricted credit for house purchases by 43%.
I was feeling a bit nervous as I boarded the plane in Atlanta, Georgia. I was moving to
Spain, where I knew no one. Besides that, I was entrusting a stranger to prepare the way
for me. I had no references for Paul, except that someone in a magazine mentioned
using his services.
I know scams litter the internet, so in the back of my mind that knowledge festered.
However, I communicated with Paul for several months via e-mail and he seemed able
and forthright. He addressed all my questions promptly and to my satisfaction. His web
site gave me information that was helpful; including some information that I didn’t even
know I needed. I am a writer and looked forward to being alone; to do some research
and jump start a project that required me to know more about Spain. I picked Cadiz
because of the climate and beaches. I read the Cadiz area was less infested with tourists
than other coastal areas in Spain and that was also appealing. I knew nothing about Spain except what I learned from the internet,
reading and from Paul. So moving toSpain was a leap of faith. I am pleased to report that Paul’s smiling face was right there to pick me
up when I arrived. He drove me to the nice, reasonably priced, furnished apartment he had reserved for me. He was armed with a list
of properties for me to look at in El Puerto de Santa Maria, where I decided to settle. Paul cheerfully drove me around for two days to
look at apartments at various locations. I saw several I liked and then one that I really liked, so Paul took charge and made all the
arrangements. I was very grateful for his services. Finding an apartment on my own would have been an unpleasant and unwieldy
chore. It would have taken longer and been frustrating; as most apartment owners speak as little English as I do Spanish! Paul is fluent
in both, so negotiating and signing a contract went smoothly. Paul also helped with the odds and ends (like getting me a cell phone)
necessary to get settled in. He was readily available to me and even kept in touch afterwards. His fee was just and no more than he told
me it would be.
I was pleased with his services. So I wanted to write to his blog to let others
know they may rest assured that Paul is real and does what he promises to
do, for the fee he states. I do encourage you, as Paul did me, to learn
Spanish if you plan to live here. I currently have a private teacher assisting
me. There are also schools available. I am enjoying life here in Spain. Good
luck to those of you coming this way.
One of my pet hates not just about the area of where I live, because I have seen it in other parts of Spain on various scales but why do people let their dogs SHIT on the pavements?
Is it because they are ignorant? Because they don’t live where their dogs do it? Do they just not care? Have they no regard for others or the health risks, especially to children?
For whatever reason there is a lot of dog shit on the paths. If you can imagine Victor Meldrew, that’s me at the moment.
I may have stumbled on the answer to another one of my pet hates, why people stroll in the middle of the road and don’t use the pavements! DOG SH*T.
I hope you enjoy and participate if you live in Spain, to this new category of, MY PET HATES IN SPAIN
I am sorry for the delay in replying.
As I state on my blog, I tell it like it is, I am not trying to sell you anything, just giving my own personal advice. The current employment situation, here in Spain is very bad. I don’t know how bad your situation is, in Rumania but with a young family, you need to think seriously hard about it.
Coming here with €3000 is a big gamble. Depending on where you want to live in Spain, you won’t survive very long. In parts of Andalucia, you may find rentals for €300 per month. That’s 10 months rent but you have to pay bills, electric, gas, water etc and feed the 3 of you! Plus if you are thinking of renting in the major cities, where you are more likely to find work, your rental is more likely to be €750 minimum for a two bed apt.
Your written English is perfect, so if your Spanish & Italian are the same level, my advice would be to try and seek employment in Gibraltar, you might not get a job as a legal adviser but with your language skills, I am sure you may find something. La Linea de Concepción is the Spanish town opposite the rock, it is not the most glamorous of places but rental would be cheaper to start with and by working in Gibraltar your wages should be higher than the average in Spain and you would be paid in sterling.
I don’t think there is a big racist problem in Spain but as is the way of the world, a Spanish person going for the same job as yourself, may have an advantage. Being a young woman and having a child makes your circumstances more difficult. If it were your husband who was writing to me, I would advise him to come here for a month on his own to test the water! Does your husband speak Spanish or English? What is his profession?
I hope I have helped in some small way. Please don’t hesitate to contact me should you have any further questions.
If you have booked flights to come to Spain over Easter, beware.
The dust hasn’t settled from the union meetings yet! Plenty of dialogue has taken place and the dispute over the Spanish airports being partly privatised, could mean more misery for passengers coming to or leaving from Spain this year.
The Easter airport strikes in Spain may also continue on into the summer. This is not only bad news for passengers but it is also very bad news for the Spanish economy, of which tourism is such an essential part.
The other proposed airport strikes in Spain are as follows:
April: 20, 21, 24, 25 and 30
May: 2, 14, 15, 19 and 20
June: 13, 23 and 30
July: 1, 2, 3, 4, 15 and 31
August 1, 15 and 31
As is the norm, the timings for the airport strikes in Spain are aimed at peak periods to cause the maximum disruption to everyone, including, of course, the Spanish themselves.
The big question is whether the airport strikes in Spain will actually go ahead or be allowed to go ahead by the Spanish government?
Three months ago, as many of you may recall, there was an air traffic controllers strike in Spain. The distrubtion, had a worldwide affect and was seen to cause enormous disruption, upsetting many governments. However, the Spanish government dealt with it in decisive fashion. A State of Emergency was called into action and traffic controllers were faced with legal action and faced hefty fines and in some cases severe prison sentences. This put a swift halt to the air traffic controllers strike in Spain.
The Spanish government may have to step in again if nothing gets resolved from the current meetings that are taking place. Lets hope they can if they have to!
No-one knows, at the moment, what will actually happen but if you have your tickets already booked, keep an eye on the news.
However, as has been mentioned in the Spanish press, it is one thing for the Spanish government to act strongly against a tiny and the unpopular, over-paid as the air traffic controllers – and quite another to take on the major unions.
I shall keep you updated on this page, of any new develops about the Easter and other airport strikes in Spain but beware of making any travel arrangements to Spain!
LATEST STRIKE NEWS 21/03/2011
This week should see the outcome of an agreement between the unions and the government, so watch this space!
The state-owned company that runs Spain’s airports reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday with unions that had called 22 days of strikes during peak tourism seasons to protest against plans to privatize half the firm.
The pact will be voted on by union rank-and-file next week and if passed will erase the threat of travel chaos over Easter and at busy times during the summer travel season.
Reached after 17 hours of negotiations, the agreement in principle would guarantee workers’ jobs and current working conditions once the government proceeds with plans to privatize part of the company, called AENA.
This was a key demand of unions representing AENA’s 13,000 employees. The privatization plan calls for management of Madrid and Barcelona airports to go completely into private hands.
What do I know about moving to Spain, with teenagers?
Answer, absolutely nothing! I came to Spain from the UK with two very young children.
So, as with everything else on this blog, these are my own personal opinions. I would love for you to comment, below and tell me I am wrong or even if you agree with me. Especially, if you have moved here with teenagers, let me know your experiences. Thanks
Moving to Spain or anywhere abroad with teenagers must be a daunting task for most parents. What do teenagers fear most about the BIG move? Apart from not wanting to actually go, of course! Well, the fear of loosing Friends & Family. Throw leaving behind a Boyfriend or Girlfriend into the mix and you are going to be hated for a long while. Apart from that, their studies and having to learn a new language and make new friends, is somewhat of an unwanted challenge.
I would advise you to wait but hey, who am I to stand in front of your dreams. Lets consider your teenager and his or her concerns.
Remember being a teenager? You know, how you dealt with peer pressure, adolescence, puberty, acne, fashion, music, weight problems, relationships etc, etc.
It wasn’t easy was it? Nothings changed, it’s still not. Being a teenager in familiar confines is not easy but now they have got to deal with moving to a foreign country! So, if your teenager is far from enthusiastic about moving abroad, don’t be surprised. They are at an age when they will need to rebel and assert their views more aggressively. You will need to listen to them, expressing their dissent, and you as a parent must be empathetic. You will need to reassure them that this move will be GREAT, for the whole family. Even though, I am sure you will have anxiety and doubts, listen to their protests and try to put their fears to rest.
You will need all the help you can get, so if other trusted family members or friends can help you out, please ask them.
Get the timing right and you may just make your life easier.
So when might be an appropiate time? If you have been planning this for a long time, make sure you drop hints, every now and again. May be leave magazines about Spain or property abroad, lying around for them to see.
It is important that you introduce the topic of moving to Spain at an appropriate time. The end of the academic year is a good idea, all depending on how long it is before the actual move. This may make it seem a bit more like the beginning of a new chapter in your children’s life. It may also enable them to look at the move as beginning afresh in a new school with new friends and so on. I know I am looking on the bright side, but hey I am an optomist
Make sure you have done your homework, you need to convey a 100% conviction about the move, as well as having studied every detail of the new place you will call home. They will soon sense any doubts or flaws in your plans. If you can give your teen a preview of the new place he or she will soon call home, that will make a difference. Show them, how beautiful it is, relate to all the things they like doing and show them how much better they will be able do them in Spain. Films, books or documentaries will be a good introduction for them. You might, encourage your child to find out something on their own, by searching on the internet. If there is an expat community in the area, tell them about it. The existence of an expatriate community will reassure them that they will make new friends and have lots of fun things to do.
Remember to involve them in the whole moving process.
You must make your child feel involved in the transition of moving to Spain. Ask them to go with you on house hunting trips so they can get a feel for the place themselves. I’m not normally one for bribes but if there is something your teenager really wants, then why not let them know they can have it, when you have moved to Spain! This may just help break the ice a little and make your experience a little less painless. Once you have a new home and you can decorate, let them decorate their own room. May be, you might want to oversee it though;)
You may need to be a safety net.
What do I mean by that? Well, ensure your child / children know they can always rely on you for support. You need to make them feel, they can rely on you, as a parent for anything. They may loose their friends but assure them, they have the support of his extended family and their parents for anything. Your job is to let them know, that no matter how embarrassing an issue, you will at least hear them out first. You also need to let them keep in contact with friends and family back home, via Skype, telephone, e-mail and may be at least an annual visit to your home country.
If possible, depending on the term and time of year, a visit to the new school together with your child would be a good idea. It will help you all, to take a tour of the new school, meet the teachers and the head of the institution so that things won’t seem so new and overwhelming when they start or the academic year begins. If you put your teenagers in an International school it will be a lot easier to be able to talk to the teachers and explain your child’s predicaments if any. This might not be so easy if they are going into a state Spanish school, but this is not a good idea. Your childs education isn’t something you can play with at this stage of their lives. The studies will be difficult enough, without having to try and understand everything in a new language! They will be completly lost, absolutely everything will be diffrent and alien to them.
Now Family Time becomes Nº. 1
You should now be able to have some special family time when you and your children can bond. Your new surroundings should give you plenty of excuses to get out and explore. Visit all the local places of interest. If your kids love sport get them to join clubs, in the sports they are interested in. Go out to the local restaruants and have fun choosing the menu. However simple, you should all get together and talk about what is happening with you at work and in school. It could also be a short weekend getaway, bowling, skating or hire out a movie for you all to watch together, just something you all enjoy doing.
Whatever family rituals or practices your family has, keep them up and let your children remain in touch with yours and their traditions and values, eventhough they now live in Spain
A patient and empathetic approach with the element of fun thrown in is all you need to make a smooth transition abroad with your teenager. This might be easier said than done if you live in a non toristy part of Spain, but if you need to and things seem tough don’t hesitate, to try and to seek professional help.
Today I would like to talk about Property Mangement.
This is quite a large part of our business and we have quite a few big events coming up soon, that will keep us busy!
Cadiz Carnival runs from the 4th to the 13th of March, then the Jerez Motor Bike Grand Prix and on into Easter. So here is a little bit about property management and why you need it, if you have a second home in Spain. If you have a home here in Cadiz Province, that needs a property manager to look after it, I have left all our contact details at the end.
Property Management – Why you need it!
If you own a property in Spain that sits empty for long periods, then it is time you started to look after your investment.
An empty property is an easy target for thieves and not a very nice place to arrive to, if it has not been regulary aired, and smells of damp.
You can invest in one of our property management packages or instruct us with your own tailor made requirements.
Let’s get back, to why property management and maintenance is so important to you! Put simply, it is the peace of mind it gives you. Having a company you can trust, to keep your property secure, clean and to be available for any arising problem, no matter how major or small, is worth more to you, than the price you pay.
There is a general tendency, for property owners, to assume that their second home will ‘look after itself’.
Please don’t fall into this trap and become one of these types of owner.
It is wishful thinking, if the owner plans to earn an income from their property, such as one aimed at the letting market.
If you are looking to generate an income from your property, this is where a good property manager is worth their weight in gold.
Providing a key holding service, meeting & greeting your guests (sometimes late at night), cleaning, bed making and overseeing that your property is looked after both in general, and by your guests and to provide a service, where your guests will want to book again.
In short, your life is made easier, your home is looked after and you can also generate an income to pay for it, if you want to.
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This is the service our clients expect from us and this is the service we provide. But, don’t just take our word for it, see what our clients have to say about our services here.
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I found this video, it sums up why I live here, in just a few minutes.
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Some people, are always asking if it’s an exaggeration, that it gets hot here, in the summer.
Now, I don’t know, how accurate the large electronic thermometers, that are dotted around the city are, but my guess is, they are only a couple of degrees out
One lovely, July summer evening, last year, my wife and I went for a stroll and a meal, in the centre of Jerez. The photos, were taken with my mobile phone. As you can see, by the the time and temp, we worked up quite a sweat at 31º at nearly ten o’clock at night.
As we walked back at midnight, believe it or not it was still 28º.
They are all obviously in spanish but I hope you can pick up a few words if you don’t yet speak the language.
Enjoy ;) Las Palmas – Video
If you live in Las Palmas or are thinking of moving there or nearby please leave a comment in the box below. I am sure everyone will be interested in what you have to say and I love to read your comments!
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